"Anonymous on Friday, released a 17-minute recording of a secret conference call last month between the FBI and Scotland Yard. In the tape a British and American agent discussed strategies for tracking and prosecuting hacking groups, including Anonymous."
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"Whatever we do in life will be insignificant. But it's very important that we do it coz no one else will do it for you".
Go to the newspaper, tickle the dragon. get arrested. I think they will be shut down pretty soon.
"Whatever we do in life will be insignificant. But it's very important that we do it coz no one else will do it for you".
They could manage to blow most of the highest skilled anonymous and shut-down their irc server, but due to the nature of anonymous they will never be able to shut them down; there is no doubt that many of them live far away from america, like those countries whom doesn't have any extradition agreement at all, or in a country that doesn't want to cooperate.
And about the phone conversation, I wonder if this one is not fake as it's a recording from people whom bluffing and lying is part of their profession; especially the part when the guy ask 'Alright. I'm not sure if we're the only two on right now or not' is more than enough to send a signal for a fake communication, sort of reminder or a small mistake that slipped through his lips.
Meanwhile, they definitely want to arrest all of them. While I was analysing an html page at the library with vi, it seems that the personal working at the library called the police for suspicious activity; from where I was I could see the police getting in and the personal moving around. I was curious and a little bored so I closed my 11" laptop and went there as a curious. It's just funny that the guy in civil -the investigator I guess- said to the two policeman 'He is on the Xth floor', exactly where I was; I love my black sleeve. Perhaps he recognized me and didn't wanted me to know about? ;-)
And while I was at boston, I saw those people at South station, one of the main train terminal, using what seemed to be some very expensive spectrometer to analyse radiofrequency over there. I had a though to this snapshot from the movie 'hackers' tweeted by the lulzboat I think, showing the final hacking scene at the nyc train station, the grand central terminal.
And it's just too funny that while I was at another library with some books about reliability, just aside a book named something like 'how to break software' that I eard two guy having a somewhat emotionally japenease conversion and stayed over there few minutes only. I must be on sony's suspect list. Or it's just my imagination. I don't really know. :P
They really want to arrest them. The question is, do they want too much to arrest all of them?
Last edited by eaima; 02-06-2012 at 02:28 AM.
Interesting eaima. I think even anonymous will have a core group and the goal would be to dismantle it. What is really strange is them going to the press. If they piss off the cops and govt. they will put in more money to catch them. If you put in enough money and intel. one can get hold of most people assuming that a number of people from the core group are in US, Europe or any part of the world that will co-operate with US.
I would like to compare it with Julian's Wikileaks, he got caught because he took it to the press. There have been thousands of leaks before him which has received lesser media attention and people who have gotten away with it.
"Whatever we do in life will be insignificant. But it's very important that we do it coz no one else will do it for you".
I fully agree with you on this, and the biggest challenge anonymous get by doing this is that most of their members will end up with repetitive obsfuscation techniques which will be defeated by the police by a manner or another.
Someone creative may hack some internet provider, some weak wi-fi, and by using some low-cost wireless connectivity like 900mhz, could manage do route all his packed through the air from his car/van (or by spoofing an adsl/cable connection) up to a compromised wifi, re-encrypt with different key and add some junk to avoid any correlational analysis, send it trhough tcp/ip to another compromised machine, then re-encryption + obfuscation, wi-fi or 900mhz jumps, again and again; theorically a very hard to trace connection have been created. Unless there have some trace left behind (i.e. all the host compromised using the same ip or the same mac address or he bought the hardware using his credit card) whoever trying to trace it back would have some mighty headache.
Here come the problem. It is very probably that this scheme which I hope look untraceable to be repeated again and again or worse, instead of using new obfuscation techniques, they will more probably use a scheme that someone else have used just before. Repetition, repetition and more repetition, that what it gives. And add on top of this that police is very likely to gather information through classical way (i.e. someone see it changing the battery on his wireless network or creates interferences with a network and it got analysed) can lead to his arrest, but it's very likely to be evasdroped during a long period of time -like 6+months- to get even more evidences and arrest more peoples.
Only very rare creatures will survive to this, I would say 2 or 3 peoples from anonymous at most. At the same time, the FBI love to have informant so while many of the people will not be arrested, they will be caught.
Edit: And add on top of this the fact that they publish how or what they found, they are running against exaustion. The day it will happen will be devastating
Last edited by eaima; 02-07-2012 at 03:23 AM.
"You may stop me, but you can't stop us all."
[Reading from "The Hackers' Manifesto."]
Agent Bob: "This is our world now. The world of the electron and the switch; the beauty of the baud. We exist without nationality, skin color, or religious bias. You wage wars, murder, cheat, lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals. Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto." Huh? Right? Manifesto? "You may stop me, but you can't stop us all."
Thamasoma jyothirgamaya, Asathoma sath gamaya, Mrithyoma amrutham gamaya || Lead us from illusion to Truth, from darkness to Light, from transience to Permanence
Where does this agent bob came from?
The hacker manifesto is a poem, and much more than that, it's intemporal.
my favorite part:
Now that we are in the 21th century, we could swap the word criminal with terrorist. The only progress we got is that we no longer tie up the phone line.You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.
Quote is from the movie Hackers http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243/Originally Posted by eaima
Thamasoma jyothirgamaya, Asathoma sath gamaya, Mrithyoma amrutham gamaya || Lead us from illusion to Truth, from darkness to Light, from transience to Permanence
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