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Topic: Has Assembler Changed?

Hey I kinda figured this is more off topic than on, so I put it here.  How much has assembler changed since it's inception.  The reason I ask is because I was looking at a few books in a thrift store, and they were only a quarter a pop, so I just picked up one that said intro to assembler.  Problem is, it's circa 1980's.  Early 1980's.  And in particular it's related to the old IBM system/360/370.  So is this book any good.  I was kinda thumbing through it a bit, and a good portion of the mnemonics looked farmiliar, at least to my very limited information-having self.  I know it's gonna be kinda hard to say yay or nay without any reference.   But all the same, if I can salvage any info from this book, I'd like it very much.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Assembly is not a portable language (such as C for example), its architecture dependent. Its the first thing above binary. So your question is rather silly. Please state your purpose. And if you want manuals, free even and in hardcopy, get the ones from Intel. They'll even ship them to you for free and you'll have a greater chance to meet an x86 than an 360.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Also, any reason you want to keep this in runlevel1? Might be more useful in general coding.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Well, thanks for the advice.  I guess it doesn't really serve a purpose in runlevel1, but I didn't think it would be of much use to anybody other than myself.

Also, I thought Hex was the first thing above binary?

One more quick question.  I can't seem to find out how to get the manuals, do you think you could direct me as to how to get them?  I would appreciate it  bui

Last edited by Malconium (2009-10-27 22:48:06)

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

First link on google: http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/ stop being lazy!

Do you know what hex is? Its just a representation in base 16 of binary which is in base 2.

Moved to general coding.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Malconium wrote:

Well, thanks for the advice.  I guess it doesn't really serve a purpose in runlevel1, but I didn't think it would be of much use to anybody other than myself.

Also, I thought Hex was the first thing above binary?

One more quick question.  I can't seem to find out how to get the manuals, do you think you could direct me as to how to get them?  I would appreciate it  bui

1) http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/
try googling yourself next time.

2) Hex is not "above" binary. It's simply a different system for representing numbers. A must-know for anyone (along with binary and octal) for any computer related professional. Google for tutorials online, it's very basic.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Cygnum wrote:
Malconium wrote:

Well, thanks for the advice.  I guess it doesn't really serve a purpose in runlevel1, but I didn't think it would be of much use to anybody other than myself.

Also, I thought Hex was the first thing above binary?

One more quick question.  I can't seem to find out how to get the manuals, do you think you could direct me as to how to get them?  I would appreciate it  bui

1) http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/
try googling yourself next time.

2) Hex is not "above" binary. It's simply a different system for representing numbers. A must-know for anyone (along with binary and octal) for any computer related professional. Google for tutorials online, it's very basic.


I did google it, and I had trouble finding it(Must've passed it up, cause I went through the entire Intel site).  And thanks, I guess... Oh btw, I'm NOT LAZY!!!.  That kind of annoyed me.  Sorry just figured I'd let that out.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

has anyone got the link to where you could get hard copies of these for free, did anyone get them?

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Iolaus I got them (4-5 years ago). I know other people that got them more recently too. So don't be afraid and click!

It seems now the email address is gone on their site, but you have a phone number either way. Intel is pretty much a mess when it comes to organizing their site so do try the mail in the link above, I bet you three bananas it will still work!

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well I have ordered them on CD, i'm never actually going to read every one of those manuals back to back it would be suicide.

If they're PDFs it would be interesting to see if they could be ported to the kindle (or similar). little bit of bedtime reading.. scribble the instruction set on the walls

that would be a seriously cool wallpaper.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

what a waste of resources, you could've burned them on a CD yourself. What's the point? Think of the trees dude, think of the trees!

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

yeah, burning them to cd would be a waste of my resources.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Iolaus wrote:

yeah, burning them to cd would be a waste of my resources.

Yeh, I guess that's a good way of lookin at it..

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

The IBM system uses the EBCDIC character set same kind of charset as x86 but the op codes are different so the books you have will probly be ok as a small refernce as in MOV CP etc; but there would be far better documentation to download on-line.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Those any of you guys help me on Assembly tutorials pls.

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Re: Has Assembler Changed?

Don't hijack threads. Go visit our links database. If your not happy with it suggest links. If you need more join #asm on freenode and/or go duck it.

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